Svago Scribes Meeting 2019-01-17

                               
                                                     Scribes Meeting
                             
                                3rd Day 1st Hand 11th Month 10,169 Contasta Ar
                                         
                                 Present - Head of Caste - Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson
                                                                        Lady Wimple Ethaniel
                                                                        Lady Jillian Daniels
                                                                        Lady Astrid Stenqvist (River)
                                                                        Salis Reis
                                                                        Sylvanus Voss
                                                                        Lurius Vancius
                                                                        Lady Rage
                                                                        Lady Sierra Shiras Desmari
                                                                        Lady Reese Eisenfaust-Kismayaz
                                                                        Jamie Al'Azraq
                                                                        Caprus Torm
                                                                        Lady Dvari
                                                                     
                                                             
                                                                     
                                                                     
  Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (adrian.ghennyn) faces the group and smiles. "Good afternoon everyone, it is nice to be here and be able to see all of you, we are surely not complete here but we have a good amount of members enough to give a fair opening to this meeting. I thank all of you for the presence and punctuality."

 xxRAGExx: ~runs to the meeting room, skidding to a stop at the top of the stairs. Smooths my gown and tries to catch my breath. Strides into the room and finds a place to settle Smiling under my veil to those gathered.~ Tal All. ~Pulls out a scroll and pen and waits for the meeting to start~

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) grins, then smiles in a more polite way before breath longer and start to speak. "In the last weeks we have found a good influx of citizens seeking to the opportunity to join us here. some of those are here today. Not every single scribe spoke to me yet, due many reasons, but between me and my assistants, everyone that are sitting here today were accepted to be part of this excellent caste. Again I welcome you all that are here that I had no formal chance to speak with."

Wimple Ethaniel: smiles then as she looked around the table
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): nods and smiles

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) breath longer. "Well, with the new influx of scribes, in many different aspects of our caste, is never too much speak a bit of what is be a member of a caste." He then smiles. "Let's not forget that we are all members of the same caste here. A caste means that we are tight to each other in a social, political and in many cases familiar ways. I want to discuss with you some aspects of it now." his face shadows a bit. "Let's start with the ways to seek justice."

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) 's eyes were upon his fellow members. "There is always ways to seek justice. But to put a fellow scribe in a trial, before seek the internal justice is not the way. we all know that the Magistrates and advocates are scribes, but in such situation they do not hold deference for the caste. The Magistrates holds respect for the council and there is no reason for any of you to jump the internal caste justice to go to a civil one. It only makes the caste look unstable, un united and this is not what we are seeking here." He grins tho he was serious "A fellow scribe caused you burden? well, i am here, so are my assistants, come talk to us." Then breathing easily he add: "Are my assistants the cause of the burden? Come to me." He smiles and faces the group. "It is me who is causing you burden? Well, then you are doomed." He laugh politely. "I am kidding, we here try to be as fair as possible. do not forget. first us, then if it could not be solved, go to seek a full civil justice."

Wimple Ethaniel looks over at her Head knowing she could never be burden...
Jillian Daniels nods as she listens to his words, making careful note of them.
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): takes a parchment and makes some notes
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) listens thoughtfully
Sylvanus Voss nods then listening while glancing occasionally around the table

 River (Sygnet Despres) studied the head of caste carefully, marking each of his words before turning her gaze from him to the outside world framed by the doorway to the patio, a place beyond the tight confines of the walls and duties.

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles and nods. "Another thing that i want to talk with you all is about respect." He faces his assistant and then the fellow scribes around the table. his face was not showing any trace of emotion. "The caste has a balance, positions that were given to ensured the welfare of the caste. I thought that it was clear and learned but due some recent events I am forced to say it explicitly. The disrespect to the ones who hold authority here is a disrespect to the one who create it, and to the council who gave such power." sighs "The disrespect of the leading body is a disrespect to the caste in itself since the one who holds such power do not act as he or herself but act as the power who were trusted to hold. Disagreements are not disrespect, you can disagree but you cannot disrespect, unless you do not mind find yourself seeking membership in another caste."

Wimple Ethaniel nods then, recalling the horrors she had faced recently, thankfully in the past now...
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): raises his hand
xxRAGExx Resident: ~Raises my hand to show I wished to speak~

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) breath longer. "Some words are never beautiful to be said, nor heard, but it is good that they are said so everyone knows. The ones who want to speak please can raise your hands as well." Facing the man he smiles. "Yes sir?"

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): thank you brother, i have some considerations about that you so clearly spoke, i want to know if i can say now or after you finish

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles. "Very well. Here we are not an army, we are scholars and we all have voice and thoughts. It is good to also know your thoughts and voices. Please, share your considerations."

 Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles and nods " thank you, i really appreciate you effort in make the caste united and flowing the works in harmony, as you said, the blue caste is like a family... and, as my share of contribution i want to say i am open to help in anything i cant.... you mentioned two aspects, and i would like to make some comments about it...first, regarding of seek of the justice, i strongly believe that the castes in a free city ruled by the law and by the council are like a dance, this is a circle, not a ladder, and for that, the way the juridical power of the city, that is a arm of the blue caste, to help the others in the administration, must be out of any passion, political tendency or bonds, must be totally independent.... and, i have the strong position that once someone look for the justice, no matter who is in the both poles, this person will have it...
     .....so, about your advice of seeking the caste before the justice, i support that, but with a warning.... if someone come to me, i will take as there is no other way to have that issue solved..... second... about the internal caste balance itself...
     .....I had see that some of the caste fellow are upset with the way things are going in the caste, politically speaking, and i had myself had some of this power games pressure... so i will take advantage of this opportunity among the caste fellows to declare that i will not accept advocates that works in caste administraton roles, as well that possess any political power... this will show the citizens that we are a serious caste and the law is the same for everyone.... once more i declare my full support on your efforts to make this caste better, thank you"

 Wimple Ethaniel glanced over at Luruis and asks...."perhaps you can clarify, what tod you mean you will not accept advocates that work in Caste administration roles"?

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): runs into the meeting, as he had forgotten about it, then silently takes a spot listening

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): sure, i will accept only advocates that do not work in the caste administration"

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "Oops...I forgot!...apologies...Greetings."

Wimple Ethaniel looks puzzled....as she looked over at the magistrate...."are you referring to the Lady Sara and Myself Lurius"?

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): " the law suit is a battle of ideas, not political power, the winner is the one who can find the best argument, the right interpretation of the law"

Sylvanus Voss lifts a brow with a thought or two in mind listening to the thoughts of the one seated to his left.. Listens to the question Wimple asks and the subsequent answer before looking to see what Audwn might say in response to it.

Jillian Daniels nods at the newcomers and turned her attention back to the meeting.

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles, " no im not referring to anything in specific, as i said is said in general, for the sake of the whole caste the castes balance inside the city administration"
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): about your case, i had my sentence this morning, is in the desk of william, already

Wimple Ethaniel sniffs then...."perhaps we can talk about this after, l am little confused as to what you mean exactly..." turns then to her Head of Scribes, nodding an apology as she realises she interrupted

River (Sygnet Despres) raised a hand.
xxRAGExx Resident: ~still held her hand raised waiting to speak~

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces the man and frowns a bit. "I see, this indeed comes to a further talk, tho I will not say anything against it right now." Then facing Rage he smiles. "Yes, Lady?"

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) raises my hand and waits my turn

xxRAGExx Resident: ~Rage sat there quietly. Listening to all that was said. Turns my gaze to Audwn, her voice was soft and even~ I don't know what events brought this about, however, if there are are continued issues with one of the  Assistants should we not hold a vote for a new one? ~Looks to those gathered~ Should we not have a voice in who represents us?

Wimple Ethaniel looks over at Rage and asks..."why you think there are continuing issues regarding one of the Assistant Head of Caste, what are you basing this assumption on"?

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): continues taking notes
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): mutters that she hadn't been aware of any issues
Jillian Daniels jumped a bit and looked at Rage questioningly, not knowing where this had come from.
River (Sygnet Despres) listened attentively to Rage, settling gloved hands upon her lap and absently playing with the rings upon her fingers.
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) waits to speak

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles. "Well, this is good that you put this up. You named my assistants, well, they are in fact not the representation of the body of the scribes to me. They are my representation to the body of the scribes. Among their function, is the one to help you all in any issues you have inside the case when I am not available. I have two to make easy you all to find a fast help and explanation when the time comes. I am not saying that you cannot go against their idea I mean that, since they represent my help to you all, not only them but all the positions of importance, should be faced with respect. Do you not agree?"

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) nods and raises my hand
Jillian Daniels nods agreeably
Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): simply watches as he entered late and has no idea what is being discussed

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) smiles
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident): Looking around that table, I clear my throat "I think we sink Justice with the people who administer the law or code that was broken.  If it is a caste code issue, Then the head of Caste, if a city law, then the administrative authority, if a civil matter, or merchant law, then the courts;  as needed.

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): looks across the table at the lady Scribe, her eyes widened and fell upon the display of the lady's prominent breasts. .."Hmm..."

River (Sygnet Despres) rose to her feet and just left the room, without an apology, without another word.

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) smiles and realizes things are going on that are not understoodAudwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces Salis and nods. "Yes, I agree with you, I just said that, if there is a way to set our issues inside the caste, it is preferable."
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) nods at the Head Scribe

xxRAGExx Resident: I quite agree Audwn. I had thought you meant there were issues about one of your assistants. My apologies if this was incorrect. ~Looks to Audwn~

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles and shake his head. "No, there is no specific issue running on right now, but it is better to have things said. I like to think that here we have freedom to say things, and to think about things, have things clear on the table is better than talk between close doors. Unnecessary secrets kills the unity."
Wimple Ethaniel: smiles over, nodding in agreement
xxRAGExx Resident: ~Nods to him~ Thank you for the clarification.

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) then smiles bigger. "Well, if there is no other comment, I would like to go to a more light and happy topic. shaw we?"
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): shrugs
Wimple Ethaniel: nods over...."we shall"
Jillian Daniels nods enthusiastically.  She was all about light and happy topics.
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I hope it's not about the initiates." mumbles
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) looks over at the Lady "We should all pay attention to caste business, it is part of our duties"
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "Hmm...unity...I have never seen you in my life, sir...or this lady on my left...hmmm." she said quietly

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): looks at the sun outside and stands " excuse me, colleagues, but i have important matters to deal, please Sir Audwn, tell a scribe send a copy of the meeting to my office, i wish you all well, smiles and takes his way to the court"

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) breath slowly. "Though we treat everyone with respect, some positions and gender are always in a delicate situation when we face harsh deeds. Because of it, if you see the need of an action that you may come to think that is risky or may put you in a risk, I strongly suggest that you seek for advise prior to the action. Sometimes a third person may think in a calmer position and clear our mind. Tho this is a suggest to everyone, it is a tool specially thought to our women here.
I am officially naming our High Magistrate William Carver as the advisor of the Caste. This can happen to everyone but it is a tool specially thought to our women here."
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces the Magistrate and nods with respect

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): makes his way to the end of the table and takes the spot that Lurius just left, taking a seat as he listens

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces the ones sitting around the table with a more relaxed face. "I already spoke to him about it, his ears will not be closed by anyone that seek his advice for any case, not talking about legal matter, I am talking about general needs."

Wimple Ethaniel nods over..just saying "Yes Audwn"

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) looks up and with narrow eyes "I am a Free Man and a Scribe, and will seek my own counsel and face any outcomes of my actions"

Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident) was listening, taking mental notes. Intentionally remaining quiet.

 Wimple Ethaniel looks over at Salis and responds...."no one will dispute that Salis, but we are talking about matters to do with the Caste here, the Caste will remain united,  you are here as a honoured guest sir perhaps you are not familiar with how we do things here, with respect...."

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): raises her hand to speak
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) smiles and nods "I appreciate your words Sir and will listen and watch"
 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) grins. "As you desire, sir." Then he smiles and faces lady Wimple. then lady Dvari. "Yes?"

Wimple Ethaniel: smiles...."l am going to change the subject slightly...."

Wimple Ethaniel: We are hoping to set up  formalised training programme for new and young Scribes, something that can be done in house, l have a lot of ideas and suggestions, but what l am looking for is someone to take the lead, become the Svago teacher for the Scribes.  So if any Scribe has an interest to teach, please could they make themselves known to me, and we can discuss a few ideas..

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I don't understand. Hmm...so is it mandatory to go to William Carver ?" shifts on her cushion "I mean...if i need 'general advice' can't i just go to whoever is closet?"

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faced Wimple and pointed for her to wait for a moment. "No Lady Dvari. You can seek advise to anyone you want, I am pointing William as official adviser because I trust him. But if you do not want to go to him, it is not mandatory. At all." Then he goes faces Wimple and nods. "Yes, I would like to hear your thoughts about this idea, wimple's idea."

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): raise hand
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods. "Yes?"

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I just wanted to say to the Lady Wimple...erm...i don't want to be a teacher or do any more work than i do already. Thank you very much. Oh...i don't want to do homework either or lessons...so if that is the case...hmm...

Wimple Ethaniel just looks in Dvari's direction and nods....
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces Dvari emotionless. "Any valid comment
Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): raises a hand
Wimple Ethaniel: gestures to Audwn she had something else to say too...
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "My comment was valid....with all due respect."
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles facing the man . "Yes sir?"
Wimple Ethaniel: smiles over at Caprus as she waits for him to speak

 Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): "I just wanted to say that I agree with everything you have said so far, None of us is an island unto ourselves, and we should not be so stoic to believe that we are above council in all situations, I often find myself in a place where I need to seek council, as Lady Wimple will attest to, as I come to her often, sometimes so much that I feel that I am being a burden" laughs "But this is what we are here for, to support and help each other" thinking a moment "And if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion to Lady Wimples idea, I would nominate Lady Reese in this if she were interested that is, I have only known her a short time, but in that short time, I have found her to be a very knowledgeable woman, and I might add, strong enough to handle some of our more strong speaking Apprentices"

Wimple Ethaniel smiles as she heard the Advocate, looks over at the Lady Reece, but puts no pressure on her...

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) notices the shadows deepen as I stand "I enjoyed attending this meeting, I must tend to some matters......a client"  ...nods my head in respect and goes

Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident) looked up in surprise as she was suggested. She inclined her head, and spoke softly, "I am interested in being involved in such a program." She nodded to Caprus, "thank you for your confidence Sir."

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): would nod and smile to the lady

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I'm leaving...if i have no valid comments ...then point in me being here. I will read the transcript and your decisions...excuse me."
Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): would watch as the herd thinned out
Jillian Daniels blinks and looks uncomfortable
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods to the woman. "This program will be under the direct view of Lady Wimple. I am sure you both can cover more details about it."
Wimple Ethaniel: smiles over, and moves on again....

Wimple Ethaniel: Also we have the Carnival coming up, and it is the custom to put forward a discussion group, as an event, to show off the debating skills of the Scribes, if anyone Scribe is interested in joining in, please can they speak to me would love to hear from you.
Wimple Ethaniel: clears her throat then..."we all know, that Scribes do love to debate..."

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods. "The ones who are interested in be part of it, please have a word with Lady Wimple and Lady Sara about it." He was clearly uncomfortable but he preferred to keep his line. "anyone would like to have words before we close this meeting?"

Jillian Daniels looked to Lady Wimple and smiles.  She hoped some brave scribe would volunteer, she herself was terrified at public speaking.  She shook her head at Audwn's question.

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): shakes his head "I have nothing more Sir"

Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident)'s brow furrowed in thought. Shaking her head, "I haven't anything for the meeting specifically. Though, it would be a pleasure to meet with you."
Wimple Ethaniel looks over and nods....

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods. Facing around he smiles. "Well, then I call this meeting over, Thank you everyone for the presence and thanks again for the brave ones who endure this up to end." Then he laugh freely. "I see you all around.