Svago Scribe Meeting 2019-02-23

Members present:

Tyran Kamdry
Sara Inkpen
Drusus Carver
Nikki Lordes
William Carver
Shaden Markov
Draco Bloodmoon
Reese Eisenfaust
James Berkeley
Claire Berkeley
Lurius Vancius
Sylvanus Voss
Jillian Daniels
& Jade

[23:59] Jillian Daniels (Jillian Daniels): /me brought out a piece of parchment and a quill and stood poised to take notes

[00:00] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me looks to reese and meep's tilting his head. whatt did she mean by that? he eyed the ladie wearily.  wondering just what the woman was up too. he feared she and nikki both with their dang lists.

[00:01] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): directs his gaze to william and to nikki and smiles to them

[00:02] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he cleared his throat then and looked around to each as he started to speak~ " Thank you all first for coming tonight before i get into the details of this meeting I would like take a moment and allow each of you to introduce yourself and offer years of experience if you will for the record and for the new faces we it will give them idea of who and where they might go for answers and aid .."

[00:04] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he looked to Sara ~ " We will start with Sara and go around to her left at the table first "

[00:05] Sara Inkpen (Sarai Inkpen): /me clears her throat and looks around "I am Sara Inkpen, companioned to Thrice Threefold. I have been scribing more years than a lady likes to tell, since it gives away my age. I can usually be found next door in the Svago Post building"

[00:06] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): plays with his fingers at the table looking at them while hears the conversation

[00:07] Drusus Rencius (leroo Baily): i am Drusus Carver companioned none times and looking for my first :P, i have been scribing for about 5 odd years now i am usually on the roof in the garden enjoying the fresh air

[00:07] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he nodded hearing Sara and looked then to Drusus ~

[00:10] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ once Drusus was done he looked to Nikki giving her a respectful nod of his head to her ~

[00:11] Nikki Lordes (AlwaysNikki Resident): Tal everyone,

[00:14] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " Thank you Lady Nikki and i do think we all are in agreement your work and aid is often under appreciated i feel honestly and am honored to serve in the same Caste now as you .  William Sir you like to add anything here feel free to take as much time as you like or need

[00:15] William Carver (William Carver): Tal Caste Brothers and Sisters, I am William Carver,  Nikki Lordes stand in companionship with me. I have been an active Scribe for 108 years. I own several business in the City, a clothing store, seamstress shop and the men's bath house.  My door is always open to a Scribe of the City.  Thank you Brother for having this meeting. "

[00:16] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles hearing the word "bath house"

[00:19] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he looked from William aafter a few Ihn making sure he did not want to add anything else before looking to Shaden ~ " Praetor Shaden .."

[00:20] Shaden Markov (Shade Rallier): /me looked to his friend and nodded.Shadne then stifled a feigned yawn as he looked aobut those gathered."I am Shaden Markov. the Current standing Praetor to the Lower Caste area of the city.I work, as best i can, hand in hand with the Magistrates for as long as information flows. I have been scribing for 90 years, if one is to count the start of my apprenticeship at 10. If any of you lot want to see the one they use ot refer to as the 'Shade of the Law'. then simply come aobut the praetor stand and speak with me, or speak with William, for he is the reason these old bones are again swinging the billing club of a praetor."

[00:21] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): nods in respect for shaden

[00:22] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " Thank you Shaden  ..Draco ..."

[00:22] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me looked around and pulled the cookie he was still nibbling, and smiled. "i am draco'no bloodmoon, Aprentice scribe, as i am only a aprentice and yet to get my seals, i dont think i need say how long i have been a scribe for. I am of 19 winter's, so possibly the youngest here, so i ask your patiance with my niavity in meny matters.  I can mostly be found mostly anywhere, as i wander when not studying. that or here in the scribe building."

[00:23] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he smiled and nodded to Draco and looked then to Reese ~ " Lady Reese "

[00:24] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me clears her throat and nods, "Greetings to you all. I am Reese Eisenfaust. Currently serving as the court clerk and working on getting the school going. I have had many years of experience, starting my education in the caste as a small child and have performed many functions within castes, up to and including High Magistrate and Head of Caste. I am not yet companioned, though that is coming in the nearish future."

[00:26] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles to reese

[00:27] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he smiled hearing Reese then nodded and looked to Jillian then ~ Lady Jillian .."

[00:27] Jillian Daniels (Jillian Daniels): me looks up from her notes as she hears her name and smiles "I am Jillian Daniels, I have been a Scribe in various cities and filled various positions over the years.  Currently I am just trying to fill in the gaps where ever I am needed" she smiled, her eyes returning to her notes

[00:29] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he noded and smiled to Jilllian then and looked to Lurius ~ " Thank you Lady Jillian   Lurius sir"

[00:30] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): " Greetings, again, brothers and sister, my name is Lurius Vancius Danca, from the Dancas of Sulport.... next year i will make 300 years, being 250 dedicated to the law... i was born and raised inside the scarlet, and for that reason their codes are deep inside my bones... i am a passionate studious of the law, ancient languages and history, my curriculum vitae is : ( cont)

[2019/02/23 16:30]  Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): Sulport - hoc, magistrate, high magistrate, teacher and scholar,
 Ti - magistrate,
 Cartius - praetor,
 Olni -counselour of the hoc,
 Lara - magistrate,
 Argrhi - advocate,
 Rovere - magistrate,
 Victoria - hoc, high magistrate, magistrate,
 Saleria - high magistrate and hoc,
 Hesius - magistrate,
 Genieva - advocate,
 Tanagra - high magistrate,
 Ar - praetor,
 Turia - advocate and councelour of the hoc,
 Svago, magistrate and semi retired, smiles"

[00:31] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): thank you

[00:31] Jillian Daniels (Jillian Daniels) 's quill flies across the page to get all that down and takes a deep breath when done

[00:32] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me almost chokes on his cookie from the list.

[00:32] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles to jillian knowing her skills

[00:35] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " Thank you Lurius and that is a vast and lengthy accounting ....One i can see being a great asset moving forward ..  I am Tyran Kamdry ..Acting Head of Caste currently , I have over 50 years experience myself , Another hand and i will companion the Lady Elisabeth Grey ...who will be taking up my Caste as well to honor traditions ... I am and try to always be approachable with any and all issues any of you may have or feel needs more attention to .."

[00:36] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ then looked to James ~ " If you will sir introduce yourself the rest of your borthers and sisters .."

[00:36] James Berkeley (Harry26548 Resident): /me leaned back against the railing and gave his short intro. "James Berkeley, companioned to this one" he said with a slight tilt of his head to Claire. "Was originally a Warrior at birth, decided it wasn't for me, changed caste a few times before landing in the Scribes. In my time in the scribes I've been a Magistrate, Genealogist and Treasurer. I have been a merchant head of caste previously but that's nothing to brag about. I aspire to magistrate in Svago but as with everything, gotta work for it"

[00:38] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he smiled then and looked to James's companion Claire ~ " Lady Claire"

[00:38] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): /me clears her throat softly when it was her turn to speak "Greetings all, I am Claire Berkeley, born as Claire Redwood in Ar to the Caste of Scribes. Since I came of age, I have held various roles within the Caste in many different cities throughout the years. I am companioned to James Berkeley and as you know we have just arrived in the city of Svago. We currently reside at the inn while we await housing." she says calmly and quietly.

[00:42] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he smiled then and looked from her to the rest of the Caste and cleared his throat and looked to Reese ..~ " Thank you Lady Claire .. Lady Reese ....I do like your outline and made copies of it to share with the others if you are ready to move forward with it i am sure William and Nikki would be quite interested to see the work so far you have put into getting the school program in a working manner ..?"

[00:42] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): looks to the newcomers and nods, with sympathy

[00:45] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me smiles and nods to Kam, "I believe that both Lady Nikki and William have a copy of it already. I haven't made any changes to it as of late. Though there are some clarifications that need to be noted. With her prior experience of creating a school it has been a top priority to get her input on it."

[00:47] Nikki Lordes (AlwaysNikki Resident): "Reese and I have talked at length on this and look forward to working with her on this project, she did a good amount of work and with my experience in running large training programs I am confident we will have the best training program out there."  she looks at Reese "we can dive in a little deeper now when our calendars allow and surely would like the help from any who share the passion of education"

[00:47] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he nodded then with a smile to her and looked to Nikki when she spoke ~

[00:48] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles seeing the project is marching

[00:49] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): Oh Yes! The more help the better! I should have mentioned that as well. My personal feeling on the education is that it is a caste-wide endeavor, not just one person.

[00:49] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): raises his hand

[00:50] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~He looked to Lurius then ~ Yes sir Lurius ."

[00:51] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): " i saw the scroll with the plan when i talked to lady reese, and i was thinking maybe is a good idea include philosophy on the classes, i have some good material i can help... "

[00:54] Drusus Rencius (leroo Baily): i wouldnt mind being able to mark the basic scribe course or someting similaur i believe that could be fun

[00:54] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he nodded with an understanding smile to Lurius ~ " I think we should commit to putting the time and work into holding classes ourselves as it is on our shoulders alone to see the new scribes coming and even experienced scribes can always benefit from more knowledge .. Thank you Drusus your offer is accepted .. ~ then chuckled lightly ~

[00:55] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me starts making notes on her scrolls, the rattle of parchment being heard.

[00:55] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me looks over the scroll befor him thoughtful and frowns. more classes he would need to take. he grumbled a bit making a few personal notes.

[00:56] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me couldn't help but give Draco'no a grin, "I told you I hadn't forgotten about you."

[00:57] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he looked to the rest then but more so the Magistate and Praetor ~ " I think that could work well with a class set up to educate the low caste in the law itself as it was clear to me with my short time as Praetor few of them have any real knowledge of what is and what is not legal and acceptable here ..and they live here ../"

[00:57] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): notices reese writing and speaks to her in a soft tone " my office will be always open to you, lady"

[00:58] Drusus Rencius (leroo Baily): rubs his head softly as he frowns looking over the scroll infront of him "no chance of home study?"

[00:58] James Berkeley (Harry26548 Resident): /me read the scroll and was a little surprise that they made specific mention to new arriving AND apprentices. "Surely this would drive away experienced scribes if you made every new comer go through this."

[00:59] Drusus Rencius (leroo Baily): well for new comers perhaps we could do a home study type deal where we ask them some questions and then mark the answers and depending on what they say we will put them thru the school or appiont them a position

[01:00] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he shook his head to James ~ " if it drives them away Sir then did we really ever need them here ?"

[01:00] James Berkeley (Harry26548 Resident): /me shrugged. "It's the assumption that every new person doesn't know what they are doing"

[01:01] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): I believe that the intent is to get a "baseline" to all scribes understanding. A lot of this is to be tailored to how WE do things in Svago.

[01:01] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): i think the mean is " newcomers to the caste ?"

[01:01] Drusus Rencius (leroo Baily): perhaps we need an entrance test then

[01:01] Nikki Lordes (AlwaysNikki Resident): Shakes her head "the intention is not to put anyone through needless classes and hoops.. I think there is just more of an orientation so that we dont have people just doing thier own thing and causing confusion in doing so"

[01:01] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " With Svago laws and protocols they would not know ..I am sure .. "

[01:01] Drusus Rencius (leroo Baily): test there knowledge so we can see where there at and appoint them to the right place

[01:02] James Berkeley (Harry26548 Resident): /me nodded with to Nikki. "If it is simply, this is where the various things you need to do your job are, like I got from Jamie and Kam, I have no issue."

[01:02] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): stands quiet knowing very well he can be one to help on the tests

[01:02] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he nodded i agreement to Nikki ..~ I can see that wokring better "

[01:03] William Carver (William Carver): " Brothers, Sisters this is a work in progress, I am sure the finial product will be something this Caste can shall and will be proud of, after all it will be authored by Scribes. "  I would say

[01:04] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me listens intently as the conversation went on. "As I said there are some clarifications that have not been put into the scroll. One of said clarifications was how the starting class would be handled, whether it would be independent study or a classroom, and who would be required to take said class."

[01:05] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he nodded to James and hearing William smiled adding ~ " That is why i felt this meeting would be the perfect time to get everyones ideas and thoughts on it only it was not to say this is how things are going to be in the future as i am sure all here could pick every little piece of it apart and agree with a major points of it .."

[01:05] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): /me raises an eye as she peruses the scroll.

[01:05] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me grins

[01:08] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " And that is why i am planning to adjust the intake questions i currently ask to better get a feel or where i feel the new scribe would fit into the system here and where best to point them in the direction of getting them needed or required direction which ever the case may be .."

[01:10] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " As it will require all our collective input to hash this out completely and come up with a solid and fair program to handle the needs of the city and school together while not appearing to shun an experienced scribe ."

[01:12] James Berkeley (Harry26548 Resident): /me nodded. "I understand the case of Draco for example, he is new to this, from he said in his intro, and so this would be a good learning tool. But people like Claire who has been around for a long time doesn't necessarily need it. A few simple questions in an interview, not a structured lesson"

[01:12] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): " my person collection is on the library i made in my mothers born place, Meqara, anyone is my guest to go there and study, we are not far in tarn travel" would add

[01:12] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): I hope it is clear, that in no way was I looking to shun the experienced scribes. But we all come from different backgrounds and different.... *cringes as she says it* qualties of education. I say that hesitantly as I don't want to seem like an elitist, but I am sure we have all seen those that have been scribes that... one wonders where they bought their certificates.

[01:15] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me fidgets a bit as his name was brought up again and grabs another cookie nibling it. he realy didnt have anything useful to add to the conversation as of yet.

[01:15] Nikki Lordes (AlwaysNikki Resident): Nikki nods "I think if we focus on how we do things here, be sure the Svago laws are understood and followed and we have some sort of communication standard and way to pass work between each other so our citizens are not faced with horrible delays, all will be good and much of these concerns can be covered without any formal classes.  I would much rather see debates and such to discuss differences, like the one we have coming up for carnival and hopefully many of you will show up for that"

[01:15] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): /me looks around and wonders if she is in the right building

[01:17] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): remembering, the law is a alive being and a live science, always in progress and changing, according to the society in given time and place

[01:19] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): "Mutatis mutandis"

[01:20] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he paused then and looked around to each member of the Caste with a proud smile ~ " Which was another reason for calling this meeting. Lady Reese as i look around we have a lot of missing faces from this room, Some i have yet to see even once since my arrival here ... What i see here are the ones that are the true scribes, the ones willing to do their part to educate and learn and share as a single group ...to better serve the people of Svago .."

[01:21] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " Anyone having anything they would like to voice or share with the rest of us ?"

[01:22] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): /me raises her hand

[01:22] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me nibbles his cookie like a chipmunk. he had nothing to say.

[01:23] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he looked to Lady Claire then ~ ' Yes Lady Claure ?"

[01:23] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): Claire*

[01:23] Sara Inkpen (Sarai Inkpen): /me looks around the table

[01:23] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me gave a quick gesture to Kam, to let him know she had something to add as well.

[01:23] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): "im seeing few colleagues seeking the chair of the magistrate, but our office is small, i would like to propose a division of the duties, as well one or two more desks"

[01:24] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~He nodded seeing Reese's look and smiled in acknowledging her request ~

[01:24] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): /me clears her throat again "Not much to say except that after looking through the scroll, as a newcomer, all I can say is that I am not quite sure what I have done exactly to deserve to be punished like this" she says politely in a neutral demeanor

[01:26] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me furrows her brow, "Lady, that scroll is not aimed at you."

[01:26] Nikki Lordes (AlwaysNikki Resident): Offers to Claire in a reassuring voice "Claire, as Reese said, there is much work to be done and I think clearly some clarifications on the scroll.  If you would like to join us in refining the thoughts some, we would be glad to accept the help.  Nobody plans on putting experienced scribes through any type of demeaning and wasteful hoops"

[01:26] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): /me nods "I don't have to do it? Excellent" she says brightly

[01:27] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me looks to claire and though grumbling he says. "its more a reminder, of for people like me.. the aprentices's."

[01:27] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): or for*

[01:28] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): holds a grin, but knowing the good operator is in constant evolution, being tested daily, no matter the format of the test

[01:28] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he looked to Claire and smiled ~ " No one is being punished here as this was only to get a feel for the program we are working to get in place for City ...I don't recall telling either of you in the interview about any part of this current topic affecting you in anyway as it is still in the developmental stage and we as a group are going to formulate a solid procedure "

[01:31] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he looked then to Reese " Lady Reese "

[01:31] William Carver (William Carver): " As I said earlier, this is the rough draft, a starting point.  As James is well aware, he and I have worked on many drafts who looked nothing like the final product in the past. I suspect this will be no different, it has gotten the conversation started, the idea's are flowing.  Do not be afraid, make suggestions of change, you are among Scribes "  I would speak slowly and clearly a practiced speaker

[01:32] James Berkeley (Harry26548 Resident): /me experiences Temos flashbacks

[01:33] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " And it has to have all our inputs to put forward a solid and very respectable program for all to be proud of being a part of seeing it grow "

[01:33] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): At the time I was writing the majority of that, there was a bit of pressure to provide something for the apprentices to be doing intially. I was focused on that. Obviously, that didn't take into account the full dimension of the project, and yes, that did leave out experienced scribes. There is much work to be done on it, and I invite you to join us on the journey. Perhaps you would like to focus on creating a path for the experienced scribes to be treated fairly through the process? Like I said, this is a caste-wide endeavor, not meant for one person alone, as I will tell you that even just what you see there was quite time consuming.

[01:34] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): As for what I wanted to add in regards to the meeting... Jamie intended to be here for the meeting, but I believe something came up that he was unavoidably detained. I do hope that it is not taken as a reflection on the dedication to the caste and his work.

[01:36] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he smiled hearing Reese and added ~ " Never Lady Reese I spoke with Jamie briefly as i did with Wimple as wel and both had very valid reasons for being excused form this one i know both wanted to be here and believe both are in spirit "

[01:37] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me raises a hand then wanting to ask something.

[01:37] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): looks to the sun always going down and clears his throat " i ask forgiveness, brothers and sisters, but the day is passing and i have some urgent issues to see, looks like some situation in the cells was supposed to be accomplished today and i need to check... brother kam, i look forward for a meeting exclusively to talk about the magistrates office, as we have some vital points to discuss.... anyone that can seek for advice, mostly the young ones, my office is open, to anyone wearing blue" smiles " i am sure you understand" stands and get ready to leave

[01:37] Sylvanus Voss (Sylvanus Voss): /me frowns, "pardon me as well, I need to get over there myself. I would not leave otherwise."

[01:38] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): " Now my plan for hashing all this out is to come together as a group frequently in the coming hands and all share thoughts and their own ideas on how we can alter this current rough draft to work toward getting the final program in place ."

[01:39] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): pats kaum shoulder and nods respectfully to william taking hs way out

[01:39] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he nodded to Lurius ~ " Of course Lurius i will be coming to see you very soon in fact .."

[01:40] Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): wish you well

[01:41] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he looked after bidding Lurius farewell ~ I wish you well Lurius .... Does anyone wish to speak at this time ?"

[01:41] Sara Inkpen (Sarai Inkpen):  be well Lurius

[01:42] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): safe paths good sir

[01:43] Drusus Rencius (leroo Baily): gets to his feet and motions in the direction sylvanus went "i should go osberve that "well wishes everyone"

[01:43] Jillian Daniels (Jillian Daniels): /me nods, her eyes not leaving the parchment

[01:43] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he waited a few Ihn and not hearing anyone speak up '~ " I do appreciate all your attention and stepping up to come hear out the current plans for the Caste as a whole and look forward to working closely with each of you on this project "

[01:44] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): "seeing i was here, does that make me a full scribe now?' he asked hioping to skip the lessons and test.

[01:44] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~he just grinned to Draco ~ " Nice try but no go bro

[01:44] Draco'no Bloodmoon (Dragon Cooperstone): /me mumbles. "danm it.." he grumbles.

[01:44] Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident): /me smirks and stands. "Thank you Kam for the meeting."

[01:45] Sara Inkpen (Sarai Inkpen): /me nice meeting, Kam, welcome James and Claire

[01:45] TyranKamdry (TyranKamdry Resident): ~ he smiled and looked to Reese then ~ " Thank you getting us a starting point that we can all work from for the next meeting .."

[01:45] Claire Berkeley (Diamante Ember): Thank you Lady Sara

[01:45] Nikki Lordes (AlwaysNikki Resident): Nikki stands and inclines her head to Kam "thank you for the meeting, it is always good to get the caste together" she snaps her fingers to jade hoping the girl was not asleep with her eyes open "I wish you all well" and waits for William

[01:45] Jillian Daniels (Jillian Daniels): /me add Meeting Adjourned at 5:45 and signed her name with a flourish

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Svago Scribes Meeting 2019-01-17

                               
                                                     Scribes Meeting
                             
                                3rd Day 1st Hand 11th Month 10,169 Contasta Ar
                                         
                                 Present - Head of Caste - Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson
                                                                        Lady Wimple Ethaniel
                                                                        Lady Jillian Daniels
                                                                        Lady Astrid Stenqvist (River)
                                                                        Salis Reis
                                                                        Sylvanus Voss
                                                                        Lurius Vancius
                                                                        Lady Rage
                                                                        Lady Sierra Shiras Desmari
                                                                        Lady Reese Eisenfaust-Kismayaz
                                                                        Jamie Al'Azraq
                                                                        Caprus Torm
                                                                        Lady Dvari
                                                                     
                                                             
                                                                     
                                                                     
  Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (adrian.ghennyn) faces the group and smiles. "Good afternoon everyone, it is nice to be here and be able to see all of you, we are surely not complete here but we have a good amount of members enough to give a fair opening to this meeting. I thank all of you for the presence and punctuality."

 xxRAGExx: ~runs to the meeting room, skidding to a stop at the top of the stairs. Smooths my gown and tries to catch my breath. Strides into the room and finds a place to settle Smiling under my veil to those gathered.~ Tal All. ~Pulls out a scroll and pen and waits for the meeting to start~

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) grins, then smiles in a more polite way before breath longer and start to speak. "In the last weeks we have found a good influx of citizens seeking to the opportunity to join us here. some of those are here today. Not every single scribe spoke to me yet, due many reasons, but between me and my assistants, everyone that are sitting here today were accepted to be part of this excellent caste. Again I welcome you all that are here that I had no formal chance to speak with."

Wimple Ethaniel: smiles then as she looked around the table
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): nods and smiles

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) breath longer. "Well, with the new influx of scribes, in many different aspects of our caste, is never too much speak a bit of what is be a member of a caste." He then smiles. "Let's not forget that we are all members of the same caste here. A caste means that we are tight to each other in a social, political and in many cases familiar ways. I want to discuss with you some aspects of it now." his face shadows a bit. "Let's start with the ways to seek justice."

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) 's eyes were upon his fellow members. "There is always ways to seek justice. But to put a fellow scribe in a trial, before seek the internal justice is not the way. we all know that the Magistrates and advocates are scribes, but in such situation they do not hold deference for the caste. The Magistrates holds respect for the council and there is no reason for any of you to jump the internal caste justice to go to a civil one. It only makes the caste look unstable, un united and this is not what we are seeking here." He grins tho he was serious "A fellow scribe caused you burden? well, i am here, so are my assistants, come talk to us." Then breathing easily he add: "Are my assistants the cause of the burden? Come to me." He smiles and faces the group. "It is me who is causing you burden? Well, then you are doomed." He laugh politely. "I am kidding, we here try to be as fair as possible. do not forget. first us, then if it could not be solved, go to seek a full civil justice."

Wimple Ethaniel looks over at her Head knowing she could never be burden...
Jillian Daniels nods as she listens to his words, making careful note of them.
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): takes a parchment and makes some notes
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) listens thoughtfully
Sylvanus Voss nods then listening while glancing occasionally around the table

 River (Sygnet Despres) studied the head of caste carefully, marking each of his words before turning her gaze from him to the outside world framed by the doorway to the patio, a place beyond the tight confines of the walls and duties.

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles and nods. "Another thing that i want to talk with you all is about respect." He faces his assistant and then the fellow scribes around the table. his face was not showing any trace of emotion. "The caste has a balance, positions that were given to ensured the welfare of the caste. I thought that it was clear and learned but due some recent events I am forced to say it explicitly. The disrespect to the ones who hold authority here is a disrespect to the one who create it, and to the council who gave such power." sighs "The disrespect of the leading body is a disrespect to the caste in itself since the one who holds such power do not act as he or herself but act as the power who were trusted to hold. Disagreements are not disrespect, you can disagree but you cannot disrespect, unless you do not mind find yourself seeking membership in another caste."

Wimple Ethaniel nods then, recalling the horrors she had faced recently, thankfully in the past now...
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): raises his hand
xxRAGExx Resident: ~Raises my hand to show I wished to speak~

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) breath longer. "Some words are never beautiful to be said, nor heard, but it is good that they are said so everyone knows. The ones who want to speak please can raise your hands as well." Facing the man he smiles. "Yes sir?"

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): thank you brother, i have some considerations about that you so clearly spoke, i want to know if i can say now or after you finish

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles. "Very well. Here we are not an army, we are scholars and we all have voice and thoughts. It is good to also know your thoughts and voices. Please, share your considerations."

 Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles and nods " thank you, i really appreciate you effort in make the caste united and flowing the works in harmony, as you said, the blue caste is like a family... and, as my share of contribution i want to say i am open to help in anything i cant.... you mentioned two aspects, and i would like to make some comments about it...first, regarding of seek of the justice, i strongly believe that the castes in a free city ruled by the law and by the council are like a dance, this is a circle, not a ladder, and for that, the way the juridical power of the city, that is a arm of the blue caste, to help the others in the administration, must be out of any passion, political tendency or bonds, must be totally independent.... and, i have the strong position that once someone look for the justice, no matter who is in the both poles, this person will have it...
     .....so, about your advice of seeking the caste before the justice, i support that, but with a warning.... if someone come to me, i will take as there is no other way to have that issue solved..... second... about the internal caste balance itself...
     .....I had see that some of the caste fellow are upset with the way things are going in the caste, politically speaking, and i had myself had some of this power games pressure... so i will take advantage of this opportunity among the caste fellows to declare that i will not accept advocates that works in caste administraton roles, as well that possess any political power... this will show the citizens that we are a serious caste and the law is the same for everyone.... once more i declare my full support on your efforts to make this caste better, thank you"

 Wimple Ethaniel glanced over at Luruis and asks...."perhaps you can clarify, what tod you mean you will not accept advocates that work in Caste administration roles"?

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): runs into the meeting, as he had forgotten about it, then silently takes a spot listening

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): sure, i will accept only advocates that do not work in the caste administration"

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "Oops...I forgot!...apologies...Greetings."

Wimple Ethaniel looks puzzled....as she looked over at the magistrate...."are you referring to the Lady Sara and Myself Lurius"?

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): " the law suit is a battle of ideas, not political power, the winner is the one who can find the best argument, the right interpretation of the law"

Sylvanus Voss lifts a brow with a thought or two in mind listening to the thoughts of the one seated to his left.. Listens to the question Wimple asks and the subsequent answer before looking to see what Audwn might say in response to it.

Jillian Daniels nods at the newcomers and turned her attention back to the meeting.

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): smiles, " no im not referring to anything in specific, as i said is said in general, for the sake of the whole caste the castes balance inside the city administration"
Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): about your case, i had my sentence this morning, is in the desk of william, already

Wimple Ethaniel sniffs then...."perhaps we can talk about this after, l am little confused as to what you mean exactly..." turns then to her Head of Scribes, nodding an apology as she realises she interrupted

River (Sygnet Despres) raised a hand.
xxRAGExx Resident: ~still held her hand raised waiting to speak~

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces the man and frowns a bit. "I see, this indeed comes to a further talk, tho I will not say anything against it right now." Then facing Rage he smiles. "Yes, Lady?"

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) raises my hand and waits my turn

xxRAGExx Resident: ~Rage sat there quietly. Listening to all that was said. Turns my gaze to Audwn, her voice was soft and even~ I don't know what events brought this about, however, if there are are continued issues with one of the  Assistants should we not hold a vote for a new one? ~Looks to those gathered~ Should we not have a voice in who represents us?

Wimple Ethaniel looks over at Rage and asks..."why you think there are continuing issues regarding one of the Assistant Head of Caste, what are you basing this assumption on"?

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): continues taking notes
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): mutters that she hadn't been aware of any issues
Jillian Daniels jumped a bit and looked at Rage questioningly, not knowing where this had come from.
River (Sygnet Despres) listened attentively to Rage, settling gloved hands upon her lap and absently playing with the rings upon her fingers.
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) waits to speak

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles. "Well, this is good that you put this up. You named my assistants, well, they are in fact not the representation of the body of the scribes to me. They are my representation to the body of the scribes. Among their function, is the one to help you all in any issues you have inside the case when I am not available. I have two to make easy you all to find a fast help and explanation when the time comes. I am not saying that you cannot go against their idea I mean that, since they represent my help to you all, not only them but all the positions of importance, should be faced with respect. Do you not agree?"

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) nods and raises my hand
Jillian Daniels nods agreeably
Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): simply watches as he entered late and has no idea what is being discussed

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) smiles
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident): Looking around that table, I clear my throat "I think we sink Justice with the people who administer the law or code that was broken.  If it is a caste code issue, Then the head of Caste, if a city law, then the administrative authority, if a civil matter, or merchant law, then the courts;  as needed.

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): looks across the table at the lady Scribe, her eyes widened and fell upon the display of the lady's prominent breasts. .."Hmm..."

River (Sygnet Despres) rose to her feet and just left the room, without an apology, without another word.

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) smiles and realizes things are going on that are not understoodAudwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces Salis and nods. "Yes, I agree with you, I just said that, if there is a way to set our issues inside the caste, it is preferable."
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) nods at the Head Scribe

xxRAGExx Resident: I quite agree Audwn. I had thought you meant there were issues about one of your assistants. My apologies if this was incorrect. ~Looks to Audwn~

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles and shake his head. "No, there is no specific issue running on right now, but it is better to have things said. I like to think that here we have freedom to say things, and to think about things, have things clear on the table is better than talk between close doors. Unnecessary secrets kills the unity."
Wimple Ethaniel: smiles over, nodding in agreement
xxRAGExx Resident: ~Nods to him~ Thank you for the clarification.

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) then smiles bigger. "Well, if there is no other comment, I would like to go to a more light and happy topic. shaw we?"
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): shrugs
Wimple Ethaniel: nods over...."we shall"
Jillian Daniels nods enthusiastically.  She was all about light and happy topics.
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I hope it's not about the initiates." mumbles
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) looks over at the Lady "We should all pay attention to caste business, it is part of our duties"
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "Hmm...unity...I have never seen you in my life, sir...or this lady on my left...hmmm." she said quietly

Lurius Vancius (macdesign2011 Resident): looks at the sun outside and stands " excuse me, colleagues, but i have important matters to deal, please Sir Audwn, tell a scribe send a copy of the meeting to my office, i wish you all well, smiles and takes his way to the court"

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) breath slowly. "Though we treat everyone with respect, some positions and gender are always in a delicate situation when we face harsh deeds. Because of it, if you see the need of an action that you may come to think that is risky or may put you in a risk, I strongly suggest that you seek for advise prior to the action. Sometimes a third person may think in a calmer position and clear our mind. Tho this is a suggest to everyone, it is a tool specially thought to our women here.
I am officially naming our High Magistrate William Carver as the advisor of the Caste. This can happen to everyone but it is a tool specially thought to our women here."
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces the Magistrate and nods with respect

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): makes his way to the end of the table and takes the spot that Lurius just left, taking a seat as he listens

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces the ones sitting around the table with a more relaxed face. "I already spoke to him about it, his ears will not be closed by anyone that seek his advice for any case, not talking about legal matter, I am talking about general needs."

Wimple Ethaniel nods over..just saying "Yes Audwn"

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) looks up and with narrow eyes "I am a Free Man and a Scribe, and will seek my own counsel and face any outcomes of my actions"

Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident) was listening, taking mental notes. Intentionally remaining quiet.

 Wimple Ethaniel looks over at Salis and responds...."no one will dispute that Salis, but we are talking about matters to do with the Caste here, the Caste will remain united,  you are here as a honoured guest sir perhaps you are not familiar with how we do things here, with respect...."

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): raises her hand to speak
Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) smiles and nods "I appreciate your words Sir and will listen and watch"
 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) grins. "As you desire, sir." Then he smiles and faces lady Wimple. then lady Dvari. "Yes?"

Wimple Ethaniel: smiles...."l am going to change the subject slightly...."

Wimple Ethaniel: We are hoping to set up  formalised training programme for new and young Scribes, something that can be done in house, l have a lot of ideas and suggestions, but what l am looking for is someone to take the lead, become the Svago teacher for the Scribes.  So if any Scribe has an interest to teach, please could they make themselves known to me, and we can discuss a few ideas..

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I don't understand. Hmm...so is it mandatory to go to William Carver ?" shifts on her cushion "I mean...if i need 'general advice' can't i just go to whoever is closet?"

 Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faced Wimple and pointed for her to wait for a moment. "No Lady Dvari. You can seek advise to anyone you want, I am pointing William as official adviser because I trust him. But if you do not want to go to him, it is not mandatory. At all." Then he goes faces Wimple and nods. "Yes, I would like to hear your thoughts about this idea, wimple's idea."

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): raise hand
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods. "Yes?"

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I just wanted to say to the Lady Wimple...erm...i don't want to be a teacher or do any more work than i do already. Thank you very much. Oh...i don't want to do homework either or lessons...so if that is the case...hmm...

Wimple Ethaniel just looks in Dvari's direction and nods....
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) faces Dvari emotionless. "Any valid comment
Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): raises a hand
Wimple Ethaniel: gestures to Audwn she had something else to say too...
Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "My comment was valid....with all due respect."
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) smiles facing the man . "Yes sir?"
Wimple Ethaniel: smiles over at Caprus as she waits for him to speak

 Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): "I just wanted to say that I agree with everything you have said so far, None of us is an island unto ourselves, and we should not be so stoic to believe that we are above council in all situations, I often find myself in a place where I need to seek council, as Lady Wimple will attest to, as I come to her often, sometimes so much that I feel that I am being a burden" laughs "But this is what we are here for, to support and help each other" thinking a moment "And if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion to Lady Wimples idea, I would nominate Lady Reese in this if she were interested that is, I have only known her a short time, but in that short time, I have found her to be a very knowledgeable woman, and I might add, strong enough to handle some of our more strong speaking Apprentices"

Wimple Ethaniel smiles as she heard the Advocate, looks over at the Lady Reece, but puts no pressure on her...

Salis Reis (SalihReis Resident) notices the shadows deepen as I stand "I enjoyed attending this meeting, I must tend to some matters......a client"  ...nods my head in respect and goes

Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident) looked up in surprise as she was suggested. She inclined her head, and spoke softly, "I am interested in being involved in such a program." She nodded to Caprus, "thank you for your confidence Sir."

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): would nod and smile to the lady

Dvari  (AnnarrAndvari Resident): "I'm leaving...if i have no valid comments ...then point in me being here. I will read the transcript and your decisions...excuse me."
Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): would watch as the herd thinned out
Jillian Daniels blinks and looks uncomfortable
Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods to the woman. "This program will be under the direct view of Lady Wimple. I am sure you both can cover more details about it."
Wimple Ethaniel: smiles over, and moves on again....

Wimple Ethaniel: Also we have the Carnival coming up, and it is the custom to put forward a discussion group, as an event, to show off the debating skills of the Scribes, if anyone Scribe is interested in joining in, please can they speak to me would love to hear from you.
Wimple Ethaniel: clears her throat then..."we all know, that Scribes do love to debate..."

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods. "The ones who are interested in be part of it, please have a word with Lady Wimple and Lady Sara about it." He was clearly uncomfortable but he preferred to keep his line. "anyone would like to have words before we close this meeting?"

Jillian Daniels looked to Lady Wimple and smiles.  She hoped some brave scribe would volunteer, she herself was terrified at public speaking.  She shook her head at Audwn's question.

Caprus Torm (PaulBryann Resident): shakes his head "I have nothing more Sir"

Reese Eisenfaust-Kismyaz (KeeperOfTheZoo Resident)'s brow furrowed in thought. Shaking her head, "I haven't anything for the meeting specifically. Though, it would be a pleasure to meet with you."
Wimple Ethaniel looks over and nods....

Audwn Guðfrøðr Reðlson (Adrian Ghennyn) nods. Facing around he smiles. "Well, then I call this meeting over, Thank you everyone for the presence and thanks again for the brave ones who endure this up to end." Then he laugh freely. "I see you all around.