Friday, June 6, 2014

Kurri Facts

Hawt Sommer:
I'm collecting facts on the Kurri based on the books.  Simple one or two sentence facts,  Feel free to add your own references.

1)  The Kurri had an advanced sense of smell almost as good at a Sleen
2) The Kurri could kill eight men easily and weighed in Excess of 900 pounds
3) The Kurri where excellent climbers
4) The Kurri relished the flesh of female slaves.  They ate them, they were food. AKA Marauders: Kur Cow. The Kurri word for Human IS Cattle.
5) The Kur on the Steel Worlds ARE Different from the Native Kur of Gor.
6) Kurri ships are destroyed by the priest kings if they are detected and land (or crash) on Gor. The Kur that are on the planet degenerate quickly to Barbarism and Anarchy.
7) Kurri are nocturnal, but functional in the day


1) White Furred Kurri - Of the Polar North actually swim.  Other Kurri hate water and will avoid it, I would suspect they dont swim and have an unnatural fear of water
2) Kurri cannot eat grain or bread (Assume all organics)  They will be nauseated and vomit.
3) Native Kurri have to live within the the technology laws of the Priest Kings while on Gor,  The technology of the Kurri has been degrading over thousands of years anyway,  they have been regressing.  They did have gas charged Dart Guns but,  the standard issue weapon of a Kur is simply an Axe... They did not use these projectiles in Marauders.
4) Kurii do not make friends of humans.  They use them and then eliminate or eat them.  The closest is a respect from combat or maybe the perception of a pet. 
(Perspective) How much meat do you eat and do you have a pet cow at home?


     During the Gorean series, Tarl Cabot and others have often faced the Kurii and attempted to thwart their plans.  In Marauders of Gor, book #9, the Kurii made a major strike against Gor.  They attempted to invade Gor from the northlands and sweep down toward the southern lands.  They were defeated after a few major battles.  In Tribesmen of Gor, book #10, the Kurii offered an ultimatum to the Priest-Kings.  They told them to surrender Gor.  The unspoken threat was that would destroy Gor.  Tarl Cabot was able to stop a terrible explosive device that would have destroyed the entire planet. In Beasts of Gor, book #12, a Kurii General, Half-Ear, comes to Gor to create a secret base in the frozen north.  Tarl helps stop the Kurii and Half-Ear activates a self-destruction mechanism at the base.  Half-Ear is presumed killed in the massive explosion.  In Savages of Gor and Blood Brothers of Gor, books #17 and #18, it is learned that Half-Ear survived and is hiding in the Barrens.  A Kurii Death squad is sent to kill him for being a traitor.  Tarl helps save Half-Ear's life.  Half-Ear then learns that the death sentence had been lifted and he returns to the Steel Worlds to lead them once again.
  
Isabella Bergiere:
I'm reading Marauders right now and it says that kurri are sent into a frenzy by blood - like earths sharks
Aphris Myoo:
I bought Kur of Gor and read it.

Kur have four genders
- dominant male
- non-dominant male, to affraid to join the Killings, no right to mate at all
- female - eggbearer
- blood nursers - immobile creatures which bred out the fertilised Kur eggs (see it as a corals)

Further
- Kurii have female human pets. The pets sprang in their furs, and nibbled the Kurii pelt and eats lice and other small animals in it.
- Kurii did not have sex with humans
- Kur females are agressive too, they fought sometimes till the death for teh right to mate with a famous Kur male
- Kur females had a harem of non-dominant Kur males
- Kurii had a hunting cylinder were they hunted game (this idea Norman stole from Jack Vance who describes a such like environment in his book The Dirdir)
- In the Kur worlds live human allies with their slaves
- The Kur have Killing Humans, kinda gladiators
- The Kur have cattle farms, where dumb humans are bred, fattened and brought to the slaughter house (this is with sadistical detail described by John Norman)
- There is a half Kur - Lord Grendel, he is immense strong (stronger then a Kur) but a bad master since he is manipulated by a free woman

Kurii Religion
- Kur believe in the Nameless One
- In each Kur steel world is a representative - the xth Face of the Nameless One
Aphris Myoo:
Bloodbrothers of Gor
- Kurii fight to the death, with claws only for honor
- Kurii like to play with their food (ne swings a kajira at her legs in circles above his head)

Tribesman
- renegade Kurii place a doomsday bomb in the Tahari which Tarl dismantles 007 seconds before explosion.

Beast of Gor
-  a Kur atomic bomb goes of and does the polar cap melt

Prize of Gor
- Humans from Earth roam the Gorean surface accompanied with a band of Kur. The Goreans who meet them think the Kurii are a kinda of huge teddybears till.....
Frost Danick:
Quote from: Aphris Myoo on 19. August 2010, 20:36:51

- female - eggbearer
- blood nursers - immobile creatures which bred out the fertilised Kur eggs (see it as a corals)

- Kurii did not have sex with humans

Can someone please tell why the hell people in SL to think that the Kurii DID have sex with humans? As hawt said. They weight in excess of 900lbs have like 7 CLAWED finger and can tear a man limb from limb as if it he was were plastiscene.

If they didn't crush the kajira (Which has been said to have the strength of a 14 year old girl.) they'd tear her to pieces. *sighs*
 
Aphris Myoo:
Quote from: Frost Danick on 24. August 2010, 06:11:22

Quote from: Aphris Myoo on 19. August 2010, 20:36:51


- female - eggbearer
- blood nursers - immobile creatures which bred out the fertilised Kur eggs (see it as a corals)


- Kurii did not have sex with humans



Can someone please tell why the hell people in SL to think that the Kurii DID have sex with humans? As hawt said. They weight in excess of 900lbs have like 7 CLAWED finger and can tear a man limb from limb as if it he was were plastiscene.

If they didn't crush the kajira (Which has been said to have the strength of a 14 year old girl.) they'd tear her to pieces. *sighs*

People have sex with Kurii because there are weirdo's who want to have sex with everything, and the stranger the better (demons, dragons, neko's, furries, werewolves, dogs, Kurii etc). Yesterday i saw a girl with tag "I blow dogs in RL".
Isabella Bergiere:
More from Maurauders which I'm reading right now  :)

*  In the sunlight their eyes were extremely small and black

*  In the darkness their pupils could swell, like dark moons, to fill almost the entire optic orifice, some three or four inches in width.

*  They are both diurnial and nocturnal hunters.  Like the earth cat they hunt when hungry, regardless of the time of day.

*   Its head was approximately the width of the chest of a large man. It had a flat snout, with wide nostrils. Its ears were large, and pointed. They lifted from the side of its head, listening, and then lay back against the furred sides ofthe head.

*  Kurii, I had been told, usually, in meeting men, laid the ears back against the sides of their heads, to increase their resemblance to humans.


*  The ears are often laid back, also, incidentally, in hostility or anger, and, always, in its attacks.


*  It is apparently physiologically impossible for a Kur to attack without its shoulders hunching, its claws emerging, and its ears lying back against the head. The nostrils of the beast drank in what information it wished, as they, like its eyes, surveyed the throng.


*  The trailing capacities of the Kurii are not as superb as those of the sleen, but they were reputed to be the equal of those of larls.


*  The hearing, similarly, is acute. Again it is equated with that of the larl, and not the sharply-sensed sleen.


*  There was little doubt that the day vision of the Kurii was equivalent to that of men, if not superior, and the night vision, of course, was infinitely superior; their sense of smell, too, of course, was incomparably superior to that of men, and their sense of hearing as well.


*  Moreover, they, like men, were rational.

*   The beast was approximalely nine feet in height; I conjectured its weight in the neighborhood of eight or nine hundred pounds.


*   the human, commonly, has an inhibition against killing. This inhibition the Kur lacks.
Isabella Bergiere:
*   The Kur has two rows of fangs. Its mouth is large enough to take into it the head of a full-grown man. Its canines, in the front row of fangs, top and bottom, are long. When it closes its mouth the upper two canines project over the lower lip and jaw. Its tongue is long and dark, the interior of its mouth reddish.

*  The prehensile paws, or hands, of the Kurii are six-digited and multiple jointed.

*  The legs are thick and short. In spite of the shortness of the legs the Kur can, when it wishes, by utilizing its upper appendages, in the manner of a prairie simian, like the baboon, move vvith great rapidity

*  It becomes, in running, what is, in effect, a four-footed animal.

*  It has the erect posture, permitting brain development and facilitating acute binocular vision, of a biped. This posture, too, of course, greatly increases the scanning range of the visual sensors. But, too, its anatomy permits it to function, in flight and attack, much as a four-legged beast.

*  For short distances it can outrun a fullgrown tarsk.

*  They spoke together in one of the languages of the Kurii, for there are, I understood, in the steel worlds, nations and races of such beasts.


* The Kur, moreover, tends to be an inveterate land animal. They neither swim well nor enjoy the water. They are uneasy on ships. Moreover, they knew little of the craftsmanship of building a seaworthy ship.

*The soft flesh of the human female, I knew, was regarded as a delicacy among the Kurii.
((great!))


*  its arms were incredibly long, perhaps some seven feet in length


*  , it shrieked, lips drawn back, with a hideous sound, which, somehow, from its lips and mien, and mostly from its eyes, I took to be a sign of pleasure, of anticipation; I would learn later that this sound is instinctively uttered by Kurii when they are preparing to take blood. This cry, like a stimulus, acted upon the others, as well; almost instantly, with the velocity that the stranger signal can course through a pack of urts


*  The blood of Kurii, like that of men, is red, and of simllar chemical composition.
The major difference between the blood content of the Kur and of men is that the plasma of the Kur contains a greater percentage of salt, this acting in water primarily as a protein solvent. The Kur can eat and digest quantities of meat which would kill a man.


*   Kurii are excellent climbers, well fitted for this activity with their multiple jointed hands and feet, their long fingers, thelr suddenly extendable claws


Isabella Bergiere:
*  The field shelters of the Kurii are made of skins and furs, arched over bent saplings. Each is little more than four or five feet high, with a comparable width, but is fifty or sixty feet in length, some being as long as a hundred feet in length. These shelters, too, are often curved and irregular in outline; sometimes they adjoin one another, with entrances giving mutual access. They resemble caves, sometimes networks of caves, constructed in the open.


*  . No Kur enjoys sleeping exposed. If in a field they will sometimes even burrow into the ground, almost like a sleen, and cover the opening with grass and sticks from the bottom. It always sleeps with its head toward the opening.


*   A typical Kurii foraging squad consists of six animals, called a "hand," with its "eye," or leader. Two such "hands" with their "eyes," constitutes a "Kur," or "Beast." The military Kur, in this sense a unit, is commanded by a "Blood"


*   A "blood" thus commands the two eyes and the two hands. Twelve "Kurs,' the sense of military units, constitutes one "Band." This one hundred and eight animals, including subalterns leaders, and is itself commanded by a "Blood," whose rank is indicated by two rings on the left arm. Twelve of these Bands constitutes a March. A March thus consists of 2160 animals, or, counting the commanders of each Band, 2,172 animals. A March is commanded by a Blood, whose rank is indicated by one ring on the left arm. The ring rank are quite plain, being of some reddish alloy, and are distinguished from decorative rings, of which many Kurii  are fond. Kurii, generally, like men, seem vain beasts, there appears to be an inverse correlation between height of rank and intricacy and variety of ornamentation. The higher  the rank the simpler is likely to be the ornamentation.

*  The Kurii, as I may have mentioned, consist of several "Peoples." Not all of these "Peoples" speak the same language, and, I gather, there are differences among, and within, each People. For example, differences in marking, in texture of fur, in temperament, in tooth arrangement, in ear shape, and so on.

*  No Kur, however, I am told, of whatever race or type, will eat the meat of another.


*   Human prisoners of Kurii, incidentally, are usually stripped; Kurii see no reason to give animals clothing.
Ashoka Mosely:
When fighting with Kurr in world, I come across issues in IM with  kurri characters like, " you can't do that, I'm a kur, RP properly " etc.

Would be interesting to Know from all out there what "can be done" to kurri?

Some points I remember from book 9 below, please correct me if I got it wrong and do add more points
from other books which may conflict?

1.) Some in game kurr say that they can't be shot at with arrows, but, in book 9, the last part was an ambush of kurr , the kurr
that tried to escape were shot at and killed by torvies with bow and arrows.

2.) Some in game kurr say that a single man ingame cannot slay a kurr with melee, but, in book 9, the Forkbeard, Cabot and even a thrall with an axe slayed kurri that attacked them one vs one. I'm going to make an assumption here that the kurri that attacked ( the Thing, Svein's Hall, etc ) were the warrior and fighting kurris and not the smaller egg bearer kinds.

Any experienced RPing kurri / RPing with kurri out there? Feedback appreciated!
 
Aislynne Melnik:
Quote from: Ashoka Mosely on 24. August 2010, 13:07:00

When fighting with Kurr in world, I come across issues in IM with  kurri characters like, " you can't do that, I'm a kur, RP properly " etc.

Would be interesting to Know from all out there what "can be done" to kurri?

Some points I remember from book 9 below, please correct me if I got it wrong and do add more points
from other books which may conflict?

1.) Some in game kurr say that they can't be shot at with arrows, but, in book 9, the last part was an ambush of kurr , the kurr
that tried to escape were shot at and killed by torvies with bow and arrows.

2.) Some in game kurr say that a single man ingame cannot slay a kurr with melee, but, in book 9, the Forkbeard, Cabot and even a thrall with an axe slayed kurri that attacked them one vs one. I'm going to make an assumption here that the kurri that attacked ( the Thing, Svein's Hall, etc ) were the warrior and fighting kurris and not the smaller egg bearer kinds.

Any experienced RPing kurri / RPing with kurri out there? Feedback appreciated!




Everything you said is true, Ace however ... I believe most "in world" Kur are now rping based on the newest book by John Norman, "Kur of Gor" which sadly, I haven't read yet.  I'm only about to begin Book 24/Vagabonds.
Isabella Bergiere:
Quote from: Ashoka Mosely on 24. August 2010, 13:07:00



2.) Some in game kurr say that a single man ingame cannot slay a kurr with melee, but, in book 9, the Forkbeard, Cabot and even a thrall with an axe slayed kurri that attacked them one vs one. I'm going to make an assumption here that the kurri that attacked ( the Thing, Svein's Hall, etc ) were the warrior and fighting kurris and not the smaller egg bearer kinds.




I have not yet read Kur of Gor so am not sure if any of the information is superceded However, here is the quote from the book RE the thrall; I passed this part about 10 mins ago  ;)

Quote

Among them was the lad called Tarsk, formerly Wulfstan of Kassau, to whom Thyri had once been given for the night. In the night of the attack he, at the Forkbeard's encampment near the thing field, with an ax, had slain a Kur.




and there's this whole section:

I saw two Kurii converging on Gorm.Twice , from behind, the ax swept laterally, once to the left, the second time to the right, chopping through the spines.
A sleen, more than eleven feet in length, six-legged, slid past, its fur wiping against my thigh.
Gorm, in his madness, was cutting at the bodies of the  Kurii fallen now before him, shrieking.
Shoulder to shoulder, fighting, I saw Bjarni of Thorstein Camp and the young man, whom I had championed on the dueling ground in the thing.  I smelled fire. There was the howling of Kurii.
I saw a Kur, barred with brown, turning, backing away, snarling, limping, from Ottar, who kept the Forkbeard's farm. Ottar pursued it, heedless of his safety, his eyes wild, killing it, cutting its body then in two with repeated blows of his ax.
I saw the huge, little-known man of Torvaldsland, who had joined the host late, calling himself Hrolf, from the East, who had come from the direction of the Torvaldsberg. With a cry he thrust his spear through the chest of a Kur.
He fought magnificently.
A Kur charged. I side-stepped, catching it in the belly with the ax.
Isabella Bergiere:
Quote from: Ashoka Mosely on 24. August 2010, 13:07:00


1.) Some in game kurr say that they can't be shot at with arrows, but, in book 9, the last part was an ambush of kurr , the kurr
that tried to escape were shot at and killed by torvies with bow and arrows.


and here is the quote to back you up

Quote

"The bridge of jewels worked well," said Svein Blue Tooth to Ivar Forkbeard. "Hundreds, fleeing, were slain by our archers. Arrows of Torvaldsland found the slaughter pleasing."
Ashoka Mosely:
Thanks Ais and Bella! Problem though is I suspect there may be conflicting book stories from other parts of Gor, that being said, looks like Torvies at least have the kurris' number.
Hawt Sommer:
This is the main reason that I wanted to post this thread.

You have people roleplaying Kurri saying that you can't kill one in melee?  They were splattered all over the fields at the final battle,  yeah men's body parts were flying all over he place of course.. but the Kurri were falling in Maruaders.

As for "Kur of Gor" I'm really kind of irritated at JN.  He say's Kur's eat Female slaves in one book, The Kur penning them up like sheep for Food and in the Kur of Gor I'm assuming it's now fashionable to have a pet cow?

OR

Are people taking the instance of one eccentric Kur having a pet cow and making it now very fashionable to have a Pet Cow (Slave) because it's SL Gor.  Where Assassins get companioned and have a Family and the Kurri have Love slaves...

yeah...

I hate SL sometimes.
 
Revenge Sempati:
Quote from: Hawt Sommer on 24. August 2010, 18:55:42

This is the main reason that I wanted to post this thread.

You have people roleplaying Kurri saying that you can't kill one in melee?  They were splattered all over the fields at the final battle,  yeah men's body parts were flying all over he place of course.. but the Kurri were falling in Maruaders.

It is just like a Scribe or Peasant killing a Warrior or Assassin in combat.  It is unlikely but it is possible.  Just like how men killed Kurii in Marauders and Explorers in one on one combat.  I think people forget, or do not know, that it takes very little for a blade to go through a body and Kurii are mortal creatures, just a bit larger and stronger than men.

In SL Gor, there is that new Beast meter, and they higher damage Kur weapons.  So things are already slanted in favour of Kurii winning 1-on-1 combat.  If they are still getting their butts kicked with all that perhaps they need to become an egg-layer or perhaps train in fighting instead of uses the tiresome invalid whining.
Raven:
Quote from: Revenge Sempati on 27. August 2010, 19:39:59

In SL Gor, there is that new Beast meter, and they higher damage Kur weapons. 

I've seen the Kur weapons but there's a Beast meter?  Eh???  Do tell. 
Tigerlily Tomorrow:
I love this I learned alot ty

Hugs tiger
Aphris Myoo:
Quote from: Ashoka Mosely on 24. August 2010, 13:07:00

When fighting with Kurr in world, I come across issues in IM with  kurri characters like, " you can't do that, I'm a kur, RP properly " etc.

Would be interesting to Know from all out there what "can be done" to kurri?

Some points I remember from book 9 below, please correct me if I got it wrong and do add more points
from other books which may conflict?

1.) Some in game kurr say that they can't be shot at with arrows, but, in book 9, the last part was an ambush of kurr , the kurr
that tried to escape were shot at and killed by torvies with bow and arrows.

2.) Some in game kurr say that a single man ingame cannot slay a kurr with melee, but, in book 9, the Forkbeard, Cabot and even a thrall with an axe slayed kurri that attacked them one vs one. I'm going to make an assumption here that the kurri that attacked ( the Thing, Svein's Hall, etc ) were the warrior and fighting kurris and not the smaller egg bearer kinds.

Any experienced RPing kurri / RPing with kurri out there? Feedback appreciated!




Tarl killed a Kur with a quiva, 1 throw in his heart. So any Kur who claims he can not be killed by a sword, arrow, dagger, should read Marauders first. I have spoken many warriors with Kur fighting experience (because we had a rp chasing a certain Kur). Mostly that goes well, only were they annoyed that sometimes Kurii females joined the battles, which is not according the books.
Aphris Myoo:
Quote from: Randall Reich on 28. August 2010, 00:08:45

Quote from: Revenge Sempati on 27. August 2010, 19:39:59

In SL Gor, there is that new Beast meter, and they higher damage Kur weapons. 

I've seen the Kur weapons but there's a Beast meter?  Eh???  Do tell. 

Metalife has a Beast option, already for years. Some used it for cheating and be stronger, but since Metalife shows the setting in the tag, it was the most open way of cheat.  ;D
 
Aphris Myoo:
Quote from: Kur of Gor

"Your voice," said Cabot, "is not full Kur, nor your eyes!"
Grendel suddenly rolled on the tiles howling in pain, and
scratched at them, and then was still, crouched down, head
moving from side to side, moaning.
"You told me you were the result of an experiment," said
Cabot.
"It turned out badly," said Grendel.
"No," said Cabot, "it was outstandingly successful."
Grendel regarded him, puzzled.
"Who was your father, your mother?" demanded Cabot.
"My fathers were Kur," he said, "how many I do not know,
perhaps a dozen, nor do I know their properties, whose
hereditary coils were meshed with the matrix."
"The matrix was the egg of a human female," said Cabot.

This will turn some peoples Gor view up side down.
Revenge Sempati:
Quote from: Randall Reich on 28. August 2010, 00:08:45

Quote from: Revenge Sempati on 27. August 2010, 19:39:59

In SL Gor, there is that new Beast meter, and they higher damage Kur weapons. 

I've seen the Kur weapons but there's a Beast meter?  Eh???  Do tell. 

I beleive Alika was working on it in a limited capacity.  It is either a separate meter or an option that can be enabled server side like the stronger male except stronger beast.  It should be in the GM release notes with the meter.
Mercy Riiser:
Quote from: Revenge Sempati on 27. August 2010, 19:39:59

Quote from: Hawt Sommer on 24. August 2010, 18:55:42



It is just like a Scribe or Peasant killing a Warrior or Assassin in combat.  It is unlikely but it is possible. 

As a Scribe I have no hesitation whatsoever to challenge any Warrior or any Assassin......to a game of Scrabble!   ;)
Toihva Svenson:
GM has a beast option and there is a way to see if a person is wearing that meter, it says beast or something as well.

You need about 9 extra direct hits with a bow or 5 more with a melee to down a Kur with the GM beast meter.
Pax Canning:
Quote from: Toihva Svenson on 03. September 2010, 17:21:23

GM has a beast option and there is a way to see if a person is wearing that meter, it says beast or something as well.

You need about 9 extra direct hits with a bow or 5 more with a melee to down a Kur with the GM beast meter.


There are several "kur" axes available on the market that give 5% more damage than swords or regular axes, too.  I haven't seen any weapons listings that single those out one way or the other, or limit them to just kurii, either.
 

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